cascading SW44 switch for 5+ tuners - Page 19 - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

Pinza · 2011-07-23, 02:25 PM

Never tried one but at that price I doubt I ever would.

luck11 · 2011-08-25, 10:21 AM

Hi. Need help laying this out.

I have 6 receivers: 3-9242, 2-6100, old 3100, so I need 9 lines to feed. How would I set this up based on the diagrams in first few posts?

I am thinking an sw34, sw38 and 3 sw44. Would this work?

Thx.

Pinza · 2011-08-25, 01:48 PM

No.

You would need an 8 Way switch on each LNBF's feeds, then 2 lines from each to each of 3 x SW44's. You would then still have capacity for a 4th SW44.

if you switched to DPP you could do it all with 2 lines from the DPP Twin LNBF, then 2 x DPP44's. Add a DPP Separator at each Dual Tuner and you are away, might be about the same cost but much cleaner.

Interceptor · 2011-08-26, 04:34 AM

I could be wrong in my thinking but with all SD now on the 91 satellite, I would think that luck11 would need one SW38 (connected to 91), one SW34 (connected to 82) and two SW44s. The two SW44s would handle the 8 HD tuners and the SW38 would connect to the two SW44s plus the 3100 receiver.

Pinza · 2011-08-28, 06:55 PM

Good point, yes you are correct, as there are no SD channels on 82 anymore that would be an option.

Like this;

Leeboy · 2011-08-28, 09:58 PM

Im pulling my hair out trying to figure this out. We have a single 9242 , and 3 other single tuner recievers with one being a 6100. I have 2 high capacity splitters ( one with power pass and the other only has a sinle power pass) and 2 sw44's... Can i pull this off with my equipment or do i need some other pieces? Thanks

m3repair · 2011-08-28, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeboy

Im pulling my hair out trying to figure this out. We have a single 9242 , and 3 other single tuner recievers with one being a 6100. I have 2 high capacity splitters ( one with power pass and the other only has a sinle power pass) and 2 sw44's... Can i pull this off with my equipment or do i need some other pieces? Thanks

Depends on the what kinda 2 high capacity splitters you have, better yet post a picture so we can help you out, but as pinza has posted the picture above might be what you want minus the 3X8, instead you want a 3X4 (Eagle Aspen or Zinwell)

Pinza · 2011-08-29, 07:19 AM

Like this;

2 x 4 switch's are not expensive, even Princess Auto had them recently for $10 each.

Much better than using splitters IMHO.

Leeboy · 2011-09-14, 12:15 AM

This is the only switch i could find at princess auto...Will this work?

Pinza · 2011-09-14, 06:54 AM

Yes that is fine.

ace2011 · 2011-09-21, 09:26 AM

Hi,
I have been struggling with this setup for over a week. I wanted to add a 5th tuner to my setup.

I set up exactly what is described in Post#1:
2 x SW44
4 x HF splitters with dual power pass (splitters are 1 in-2 out)

I have one of the SW44 connected to 2 HD receivers (4 tuners)
The other SW44 is connected to my 6100 HD receiver (1 tuner)

I have both SW44 connected to a power inserter as well.

I am having no signal on sat 91 even channels on 6100, and the signal levels in general on this 6100 are lower than my other two receivers.

This is a brand new SW44 that I just purchased.
The SW44 to my 6100 is also noticeably hotter to the touch than my other SW44. There is also one of the splitters that is also warm to the touch where the other three are cool to the touch, i.e., not heating up at all.

Any suggestions on what my problem may be?
Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks.

Pinza · 2011-09-21, 10:03 AM

Possible partial short circuit on one of the short jumper cables feeding to or from the splitter, switch that is/ are getting warm.

Splitters should not get warm.

dkemp · 2011-09-21, 10:08 AM

I have a similar problem to mhyndman:

My original Bell TV install included a 9241 PVR and two 6131 digital boxes. I wanted to add one tuner; a 5900. I used the diagram in the third post in this thread (2 SW34 [Zinwell “SAM -3402] and an additional SW44 [“Dish Network”]) to add the 5900 tuner. The 9241, one 6131 and the 5900 are supplied by one SW44 and one 6131 is supplied by the other SW44 through the first output that is powered.
All the boxes except the 6131 from the second SW44 work as expected. This box will not display any HD channels from ‘even’ transponders from Sat 82.
I thought the wiring was done correctly, but I must have done something wrong. Any suggestions?

ace2011 · 2011-09-21, 10:11 AM

Pinza,
Thanks for the quick response!
I will replace the cable between the splitter and SW44.
Do you think this could have damaged either the SW44 or splitter?

ace2011 · 2011-09-21, 12:18 PM

Pinza,
You were bang on!
One of the cables between the warm splitter and the SW44 had an obvious short upon closer inspection. Cut a new cable and everything is now working!
Thanks a million!

2011-08-25, 10:21 AM	#272
luck11 Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 94	6 receivers Hi. Need help laying this out. I have 6 receivers: 3-9242, 2-6100, old 3100, so I need 9 lines to feed. How would I set this up based on the diagrams in first few posts? I am thinking an sw34, sw38 and 3 sw44. Would this work? Thx.

2011-09-21, 09:26 AM	#281
ace2011 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 3	5 Tuners problem Hi, I have been struggling with this setup for over a week. I wanted to add a 5th tuner to my setup. I set up exactly what is described in Post#1: 2 x SW44 4 x HF splitters with dual power pass (splitters are 1 in-2 out) I have one of the SW44 connected to 2 HD receivers (4 tuners) The other SW44 is connected to my 6100 HD receiver (1 tuner) I have both SW44 connected to a power inserter as well. I am having no signal on sat 91 even channels on 6100, and the signal levels in general on this 6100 are lower than my other two receivers. This is a brand new SW44 that I just purchased. The SW44 to my 6100 is also noticeably hotter to the touch than my other SW44. There is also one of the splitters that is also warm to the touch where the other three are cool to the touch, i.e., not heating up at all. Any suggestions on what my problem may be? Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.

2011-09-21, 10:08 AM	#283
dkemp Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7	5 Tuner Problem I have a similar problem to mhyndman: My original Bell TV install included a 9241 PVR and two 6131 digital boxes. I wanted to add one tuner; a 5900. I used the diagram in the third post in this thread (2 SW34 [Zinwell “SAM -3402] and an additional SW44 [“Dish Network”]) to add the 5900 tuner. The 9241, one 6131 and the 5900 are supplied by one SW44 and one 6131 is supplied by the other SW44 through the first output that is powered. All the boxes except the 6131 from the second SW44 work as expected. This box will not display any HD channels from ‘even’ transponders from Sat 82. I thought the wiring was done correctly, but I must have done something wrong. Any suggestions?

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2011-07-23, 02:25 PM	#271
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	Never tried one but at that price I doubt I ever would.

2011-08-25, 01:48 PM	#273
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	No. You would need an 8 Way switch on each LNBF's feeds, then 2 lines from each to each of 3 x SW44's. You would then still have capacity for a 4th SW44. if you switched to DPP you could do it all with 2 lines from the DPP Twin LNBF, then 2 x DPP44's. Add a DPP Separator at each Dual Tuner and you are away, might be about the same cost but much cleaner.

2011-08-26, 04:34 AM	#274
Interceptor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 593	I could be wrong in my thinking but with all SD now on the 91 satellite, I would think that luck11 would need one SW38 (connected to 91), one SW34 (connected to 82) and two SW44s. The two SW44s would handle the 8 HD tuners and the SW38 would connect to the two SW44s plus the 3100 receiver.

2011-08-28, 06:55 PM	#275
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	Good point, yes you are correct, as there are no SD channels on 82 anymore that would be an option. Like this;

2011-08-28, 09:58 PM	#276
Leeboy Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 122	Im pulling my hair out trying to figure this out. We have a single 9242 , and 3 other single tuner recievers with one being a 6100. I have 2 high capacity splitters ( one with power pass and the other only has a sinle power pass) and 2 sw44's... Can i pull this off with my equipment or do i need some other pieces? Thanks

2011-08-29, 07:19 AM	#278
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	Like this; 2 x 4 switch's are not expensive, even Princess Auto had them recently for $10 each. Much better than using splitters IMHO.

2011-09-14, 12:15 AM	#279
Leeboy Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 122	This is the only switch i could find at princess auto...Will this work?

2011-09-14, 06:54 AM	#280
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	Yes that is fine.

2011-09-21, 10:03 AM	#282
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	Possible partial short circuit on one of the short jumper cables feeding to or from the splitter, switch that is/ are getting warm. Splitters should not get warm.

2011-09-21, 10:11 AM	#284
ace2011 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 3	Pinza, Thanks for the quick response! I will replace the cable between the splitter and SW44. Do you think this could have damaged either the SW44 or splitter?

2011-09-21, 12:18 PM	#285
ace2011 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 3	Pinza, You were bang on! One of the cables between the warm splitter and the SW44 had an obvious short upon closer inspection. Cut a new cable and everything is now working! Thanks a million!