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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Hello to all,
I'm new to the HDTV World (ain't christmas great!). Heres whats happening - my TV has an ATSC Tuner, and when I scan the cable I get a whole bunch of SD (480i) and 1 HD (A&E HD @ 720p) channel. Looks like the same channels as basic cable? They are sitting @ 87-X, 89-X and 90-X As far as I'm concerned its all good - I just haven't seen any other posts on this? Just curious about whats happening, is this a cogeco service that is supported - or is it just there? or will it go "poof" and disappear someday? |
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The ATSC tuner tunes OTA channels (antenna).
What you are likely seeing is the result of the QAM tuner, which many new HDTVs have. See the Digital Home FAQ http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=32271 You didn't state the make/model of the TV, so I cannot confirm.
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Sorry about that - I have a Insignia 42" LCD - NS42LCD.
Thats what I understood about ATSC tuners as well. According to FS/BB specs (no longer online?) it doesn't have a QAM tuner. Not that FS would ever be wrong about something If it does have a QAM tuner I'm curious why I'm getting A&EHD - I would expect that it would be encrypted? |
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Sometimes some channels are simply left unencrypted by mistake, or they could be on "free preview" (and then left unencrypted). Or they could be "testing".
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A&E HD and HDNet are both free for 2 months.
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Hmm..didn't find HDNet - have to look again.
I have a number of channels found at 84-# that have a signal - but come-up as invaild with no picture - they must be the encypted ones. Glad the SD channels are available - because analog cable really stinks. Looks like the TV has a undocumented QAM tuner! Thanks! |
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I think the term ATSC Tuner now implies integrated QAM tuner too, although a consumer must clarify this to be sure.
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Hi Guys:
Could someone post the exact channel numbers to tune to? BTW, I get about 20 digital music channels free with my Cogeco 'analog' cable. They, however, are scattered around the 87.x to 90.x range. I had a few saved as Favourites but have since bumped them off. Craig |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ridgeway, Ontario
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Here are the digital cable channels I am currently picking up through Cogeco (via internal QAM tuner):
Digital Channel / Description / Analog Equivalent 34-274 HDNET 34-289 DISC HD 49-284 DETROIT HD NO SOUND 62-90 FOOD 58 62-96 MTV ? 62-99 BET 49 64-151 SPORTSNET ? 65-93 BUSINESS ? 66-123 BITE ? 66-71 ? ? 66-74 TVNC/APTN 60 69-151 SPORTSNET ? 69-152 SPORTSNET ? 69-153 SPORTSNET ? 69-27 YTV 25 69-91 CLT 91 69-95 ACHANNEL 19 79-94 MMM 78 80-68 TVR 59 80-92 STAR 36 81-171 DISC HEALTH ? 84-1 COGECO ? 84-184 EWTN ? 84-250 VCHOICE PREVIEW ? 84-97 CPAC 77 87-273 A&E HD 89-17 MUCHMUSIC 29 89-32 HGTV 37 89-35 DISCOVERY 42 89-36 THESCORE 53 89-37 SHOWCASE 39 89-38 BRAVO 40 89-43 HISTORY 56 89-44 COMEDY 44 89-50 SPACE 50 89-57 LIFE 73 89-59 TSN 28 89-70 CTVNEWS 14 90-10 CHCH11 12 90-102 ? ? 90-11 NBC 2 90-15 TLC 30 90-24 FOX 20 90-3 GLOBAL 3 90-31 WNED 21 90-47 TBS 47 90-5 CBS 5 90-53 SPORTSNET 57 90-6 CBC 6 90-7 CITYTV 7 90-9 ABC 22 There are also a whole whack of music stations - see below: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/show...2&postcount=22 Last edited by 57; 2007-02-25 at 10:53 AM. Reason: Music station link added. |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oakville, ON
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Hi guys,
Just wondering if anyone has a complete cogeco channel list when connecting coax directly to the tv? I have a Sharp Aquos LC46D62U and I am receiving analog and digital signals (a few HD channels), but it's a pain to go through all the channels not knowing what they are. Some digital channels don't show up even after doing a channel scan (ex. I will see 102.3 HD discovery but I won't see anything on 102.1). A channel list would help a lot when flipping through channels. Thanks. |
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Please see the list - link at the end of the following post.
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=32271 Be advised that these can change around and may vary by head end. Edit - Post seems a bit silly sitting here after the threads were merged, but I'll leave it.
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Milton, ON
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I have a Samsung LN-R408 which is also DCR ready, by using only the analog coax cable, aside from the analog channels I get a bunch of DTV channels (among which 4 HD channels) and music as in the list below: CH.# Description Ch.type 62-90 HEALTH NETWORK SD 62-96 MTV SD 62-99 BET SD 62-301 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 62-304 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 62-310 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 62-315 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 63-302 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 63-309 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 63-317 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 64-151 SPORTSNET SD 64-323 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 64-335 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 65-93 REPORT ON BUSINESS SD 65-321 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 65-322 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 65-328 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 66-71 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY SD 66-74 APTN SD 66-123 BITE TV SD 66-307 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 66-316 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 66-326 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 67-27 YTV (KIDS CHANNEL) SD 67-91 CLT SD 67-95 A CHANNEL SD 67-151 FSN SPORTS SD 67-305 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 67-319 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 67-320 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 67-333 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 68-331 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 68-337 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 68-340 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 69-94 MUCH MORE MUSIC SD 69-308 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 69-312 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 69-314 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 69-338 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 71-68 TVA (FR) SD 71-92 STAR! SD 71-313 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 71-336 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 71-339 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 72-171 DISCOVERY HEALTH SD 72-318 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 72-329 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 72-330 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 72-332 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 75-1 COGECO ON DEMAND SD 75-97 EPAC SD 75-184 EWTN SD 75-250 VIEWERS CHOICE PREVIEW SD 75-324 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 75-325 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 75-327 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 80-274 HDNET HD 80-289 DISCOVERY HD HD 82-3 GLOBAL SD 82-6 CBC NEWS SD 82-7 CITY TV SD 82-9 ABC NEWS SD 82-10 CH SD 82-11 CNBC 2 NEWS (WGRZ) SD 82-13 CTV SD 82-24 ?????????? SD 82-31 WNED SD 83-4 FOOD SD 83-8 SUN TV SD 83-22 COGECO SD 83-29 OMNI 2 SD 83-900 WEATHER NETWORK SD 83-903 TV COGECO SD 83-904 TV COGECO (2) SD 83-954 TV COGECO (3) SD 84-17 MUCH MORE MUSIC SD 84-36 FSC LIVE SD 84-59 TSN SD 85-12 RADIO-CANADA (FR) SD 85-25 A CHANNEL SD 85-26 RELIGIOUS ?? SD 85-28 CBC NEWSWORLD SD 85-60 CTV SD 85-66 TFO (FR) SD 86-2 TVO KIDS SD 86-55 CNBC WORLD (NO AUDIO) SD 86-56 EPAC LIVE SD 86-58 RELIGIOUS ?? SD 86-67 RDI (FR) SD 87-284 DETROIT PUBLIC TV HD (NO AUDIO) HD 90-89 COGECO SD 90-98 MY TV BUFFALO SD 90-118 CGTV SD 90-185 STL LIVE SD 90-186 RELIGIOUS ?? SD 99-303 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 99-306 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 99-311 MUSIC CHANNEL MUSIC 100-273 A&E HD HD All DTV channels have Dolby Digital 2.0 sound except HDNET which has Dolby Digital 5.1 |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oakville, ON
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It's odd though, I don't receive more than 15 sub-channels per channel. For instance, for channel 80, I get sub channels 80.1 to 80.15 (nothing more). How come my discovery HD channel is on 102.3 and yours is on 80-289??? Please help... thanks
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The difference could be due to various head ends/areas, as indicated in post 11, and by the obvious difference in programming between post 9 and 12.
Please put your location and service provider into your UserCP Profile (location). As you can see, this information can be helpful.
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oakville, ON
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I guess it's different in Milton than in Oakville....
It's just frustrating to scan through all the digital channels and not knowing what channel you are viewing... Anyone have a complete channel list for straight COAX into the TV tuner for Oakville? Thanks in advance. |
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