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magnet · 2012-01-09, 12:45 PM

Some (but obviously not all) of those signals are used by retransmitters. One example is CFMI Rock 101 Vancouver is retransmitted at Donald Station, BC near Golden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFMI-FM
I believe you would have to delete 10 radio stations to get 1 HD channel, since about 30 radio stations fit into one transponder.
We also don't know if there are contracts involved.

starchoice · 2012-01-09, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sawguyg

I think they (Shaw Direct) have made it clear we won't be getting many more new HD channels until the new sattelite is up and running. I think they should do as they did with the Frame, trade off. How many people listen to the radio stations through the dish,getting rid of them would free up space surely at least enough for the much coveted Space HD

I listen to the radio stations. Bad idea.

Here's an idea. Get rid of Space SD and replace it with Space HD. Why do we need channel duplication?

If you want more HD, why don't you change providers or just wait until they eventually get added? It obviously cannot be done all at once.

sawguyg · 2012-01-09, 02:45 PM

Ok so my point is you can't please evereyone no matter what you do. The original post was about adding Food HD which brought about posts complaining about it not being some different channel. So even if you added every available Hd channel someone would find something to grumble about because it's an express your opinion forum.

mazinaw · 2012-01-09, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sawguyg

I think they (Shaw Direct) have made it clear we won't be getting many more new HD channels until the new sattelite is up and running. I think they should do as they did with the Frame, trade off. How many people listen to the radio stations through the dish,getting rid of them would free up space surely at least enough for the much coveted Space HD

I listen to the radio stations a lot. Definitely don't want to see them go.

takeaim · 2012-01-09, 03:41 PM

at this point they should just wait until the new satellite is up. once that is up there better be a huge upgrade in offerings including a college sports pack to show basketball and football games from espn/espn2, otherwise that's it for me.

once they do have the new offerings up, they also better not have a spike in cost. for a college sports pack, that should be ppv speciality, so of course a cost associated with that similar to what bell offers (currently $100 for football and basketball combined lasting sep-mar)

classicsat · 2012-01-10, 11:03 AM

The radio stations are all over the place as far as transponders go, so cannot be eliminated for more TV channels. The exception is the Galaxie channels, they are, or were, on one or two transponders.

sawguyg · 2012-01-10, 12:09 PM

Wow, sure stirred the fire with the radio station comment. I'm quite suprised that a person living in a major city (Edmonton) with quite a few stations available over the air listens to ones on the dish. I didn't think they were that popular, I stand corrected.

mobee · 2012-01-10, 01:53 PM

Regarding New Channels, Now that NFL Sunday Ticket is done, and when NHL Centre Ice ends in April, could Shaw Direct use this bandwidth space for adding some HD Speciality channels?

My thought is the bandwidth they are currently using for these sports packages when it comes available in April is it just left open? Could SD then use this space for speciality HD channels that they would like to add?

With Most Sport package subscribers being switched over this past fall to the new receivers, could they then package all the sports packages on to mpeg-4 format? Or would there still be a bandwidth crunch until the new satellite is up and functioning.

magnet · 2012-01-10, 02:41 PM

Not going to happen- these channels go to PPV when not used for NHL CI/ NFLST.
Also, come next fall- they would need to reclaim those channels back.

Just look at the stink caused by the deletion of The Frame for Food HD. Imagine if they added and then deleted 4 or 6 more channels.

classicsat · 2012-01-12, 11:22 AM

I never heard of a stink of The Frame being dropped for a real HD channel (maybe some stink for it being Food and not Space), in fact I heard praise. I am more in the praise column.

As for the radio stations, I mostly wouldn't miss them, but like the convenience of them, especially having CBC Radio available to record on the TiVo (which does have program data for CBC Radio Toronto).

BCScott · 2012-01-12, 12:13 PM

We're definitely in the minority, but we'll miss The Frame. It was nice eye candy in the background while listening to music with guests over. As an amateur photographer, it's educational and a nice revisit for areas like South-East Asia, where I travelled years ago. I haven't watched 10 minutes of BTN. That one can go!
As for radio stations, rural areas don't get over the air radio, so before Sirius & XM sat radio, we listened to it a lot, especially CKUA.

Cheers · 2012-01-12, 02:47 PM

I"ll at least second the motion that my household is in the minority for missing the frame. We've a beautiful wall-mounted 60" lcd with surround sound and the frame photos with the spa-like music was perfect for relaxing or entertaining too. Some people entertain with music in the background, we used the frame. If there was ever any quiet moments in conversation, whatever gorgeous picture was now showing easily started up conversation again. What I like about it was it's use of being on and being in the background. Can't do that with "food" haha Shame we can't have all the channels we all want.

My 2 cents

seanwrestledude · 2012-01-12, 10:17 PM

If BTN goes, I Go. Other than the Score, It's my only break from the ridiculous, nonsensical, hockey obsessed "All Sports" Channels we unfortunately must put up with.

Not saying I want ESPN style coverage:

50% NFL Coverage
16% NCAA Coverage
16% NBA Coverage
16% MLB Coverage
2% NHL Coverage

But come on, TSN and SN can do so much more to improve their coverage of non-NHL events and news.

bigoranget · 2012-01-12, 11:39 PM

BTN gets pretty decent viewership with their football and basketball coverage. Out of all the college conferences, the big ten is probably the most popular in Canada. It's probably because many areas of Canada get Detroit locals and they have always had pretty extensive coverage of Michigan and Michigan State.

I certainly do not watch all the HD channels available but I don't have an issue with any of the channels that they carry. The only one I took issue with was "The Frame" and it's gone now. It's fine to have filler channels like that if you have the bandwidth but Shaw Direct's bandwidth is scarce so any available bandwidth should be prioritized for specialty channels and network television.

Danny001 · 2012-01-23, 10:44 PM

Can anyone tell me, or is there any speculation/ indication of how many new channels could potentially be added with the launch of the new Satellite this year?

2012-01-09, 12:45 PM	#31
magnet Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 4,014	Some (but obviously not all) of those signals are used by retransmitters. One example is CFMI Rock 101 Vancouver is retransmitted at Donald Station, BC near Golden. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFMI-FM I believe you would have to delete 10 radio stations to get 1 HD channel, since about 30 radio stations fit into one transponder. We also don't know if there are contracts involved. __________________ When it comes to humility, I am the greatest!

2012-01-10, 02:41 PM	#39
magnet Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 4,014	Not going to happen- these channels go to PPV when not used for NHL CI/ NFLST. Also, come next fall- they would need to reclaim those channels back. Just look at the stink caused by the deletion of The Frame for Food HD. Imagine if they added and then deleted 4 or 6 more channels. __________________ When it comes to humility, I am the greatest!

2012-01-12, 12:13 PM	#41
BCScott Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Windermere, BC Posts: 1,129	We're definitely in the minority, but we'll miss The Frame. It was nice eye candy in the background while listening to music with guests over. As an amateur photographer, it's educational and a nice revisit for areas like South-East Asia, where I travelled years ago. I haven't watched 10 minutes of BTN. That one can go! As for radio stations, rural areas don't get over the air radio, so before Sirius & XM sat radio, we listened to it a lot, especially CKUA. __________________ Sony KDL-52XBR4,SD DVR530/630,Tosh HD-A2 HD-A30, Pana DMP-BD65, Pio VSX-1015,Energy C3,CC100,ESM-4,S8.2, Engenius WAP

2012-01-23, 10:44 PM	#45
Danny001 Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 361	New Channels Can anyone tell me, or is there any speculation/ indication of how many new channels could potentially be added with the launch of the new Satellite this year?

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2012-01-09, 02:45 PM	#33
sawguyg Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tumbler Ridge B.C. Posts: 156	Ok so my point is you can't please evereyone no matter what you do. The original post was about adding Food HD which brought about posts complaining about it not being some different channel. So even if you added every available Hd channel someone would find something to grumble about because it's an express your opinion forum.

2012-01-09, 03:41 PM	#35
takeaim Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 370	at this point they should just wait until the new satellite is up. once that is up there better be a huge upgrade in offerings including a college sports pack to show basketball and football games from espn/espn2, otherwise that's it for me. once they do have the new offerings up, they also better not have a spike in cost. for a college sports pack, that should be ppv speciality, so of course a cost associated with that similar to what bell offers (currently $100 for football and basketball combined lasting sep-mar)

2012-01-10, 11:03 AM	#36
classicsat Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kincardine ON. Posts: 4,008	The radio stations are all over the place as far as transponders go, so cannot be eliminated for more TV channels. The exception is the Galaxie channels, they are, or were, on one or two transponders.

2012-01-10, 12:09 PM	#37
sawguyg Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tumbler Ridge B.C. Posts: 156	Wow, sure stirred the fire with the radio station comment. I'm quite suprised that a person living in a major city (Edmonton) with quite a few stations available over the air listens to ones on the dish. I didn't think they were that popular, I stand corrected.

2012-01-10, 01:53 PM	#38
mobee Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 68	Regarding New Channels, Now that NFL Sunday Ticket is done, and when NHL Centre Ice ends in April, could Shaw Direct use this bandwidth space for adding some HD Speciality channels? My thought is the bandwidth they are currently using for these sports packages when it comes available in April is it just left open? Could SD then use this space for speciality HD channels that they would like to add? With Most Sport package subscribers being switched over this past fall to the new receivers, could they then package all the sports packages on to mpeg-4 format? Or would there still be a bandwidth crunch until the new satellite is up and functioning.

2012-01-12, 11:22 AM	#40
classicsat Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kincardine ON. Posts: 4,008	I never heard of a stink of The Frame being dropped for a real HD channel (maybe some stink for it being Food and not Space), in fact I heard praise. I am more in the praise column. As for the radio stations, I mostly wouldn't miss them, but like the convenience of them, especially having CBC Radio available to record on the TiVo (which does have program data for CBC Radio Toronto).

2012-01-12, 02:47 PM	#42
Cheers Rookie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Niagara, ON Posts: 2	I"ll at least second the motion that my household is in the minority for missing the frame. We've a beautiful wall-mounted 60" lcd with surround sound and the frame photos with the spa-like music was perfect for relaxing or entertaining too. Some people entertain with music in the background, we used the frame. If there was ever any quiet moments in conversation, whatever gorgeous picture was now showing easily started up conversation again. What I like about it was it's use of being on and being in the background. Can't do that with "food" haha Shame we can't have all the channels we all want. My 2 cents

2012-01-12, 10:17 PM	#43
seanwrestledude Join Date: May 2010 Location: Richmond, BC. Shaw Direct: DSR 630, DSR 600, DSR 505 Posts: 57	If BTN goes, I Go. Other than the Score, It's my only break from the ridiculous, nonsensical, hockey obsessed "All Sports" Channels we unfortunately must put up with. Not saying I want ESPN style coverage: 50% NFL Coverage 16% NCAA Coverage 16% NBA Coverage 16% MLB Coverage 2% NHL Coverage But come on, TSN and SN can do so much more to improve their coverage of non-NHL events and news.

2012-01-12, 11:39 PM	#44
bigoranget Veteran Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hamilton Posts: 3,025	BTN gets pretty decent viewership with their football and basketball coverage. Out of all the college conferences, the big ten is probably the most popular in Canada. It's probably because many areas of Canada get Detroit locals and they have always had pretty extensive coverage of Michigan and Michigan State. I certainly do not watch all the HD channels available but I don't have an issue with any of the channels that they carry. The only one I took issue with was "The Frame" and it's gone now. It's fine to have filler channels like that if you have the bandwidth but Shaw Direct's bandwidth is scarce so any available bandwidth should be prioritized for specialty channels and network television.