Bell TV 9241 HD PVR discussion thread - Page 66 - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

sonnykeyes · 2010-05-05, 04:38 PM

I have two rental 9242s, and one of them started acting up, (and resolving itself by reformatting its hard drive) perhaps because it's in a poorly ventilated spot. I called Bell, and they're shipping me a replacement, but I was told that they don't have 9242s any more, so I'm going to be getting a 9241.

Reading this forum, I'm starting to wonder if I would be smarter to buy a new TV stand with better ventilation and try to revive the old 9242 - there seem to be substantial complaints here about the 9241s, or am I getting a skewed view of this? What are the differences, really? My other 9242 is the best PVR I've ever had.

scrubby · 2010-05-06, 06:24 PM

I've noticed something since hooking up my HDMI cable with V235, in that with V232 whenever I clicked my TV to ON, the Sony A/V receiver came ON also, as expected with HDMI, but it would only stay on the TV input (an analog input with nothing connected to it) and not the HDMI input from Bell, so I had to reset it every time I turned on the TV.

Now whenever I turn on the TV, the Sony A/V receiver automatically turns on to the Bell input.
I was wondering if anyone has experienced this, and has V235 fixed this, or did my resetting everything just have this happen coincidentally.

julie_rose_ · 2010-05-10, 08:08 PM

hi today i got a brand new tv a samsung 32", i plug back my 9241 receiver and i went to menu, than press 6 for system setup, than press 7 for hdtv setup, than it mark 1080I for tv type than 16««x9 for aspect ratio. so is this an hdtv i got?

FunkyTown · 2010-05-10, 08:37 PM

Haha that's funny. You bought a brand new TV but don't know if it's HD? It should say on the box or the manual. It likely is, but there are different varieties of HDTV. It would be good to know what you've got. My living room is a 1080p. My bedroom is a 720p. Both TVs accept 1080i, but the bedroom tv converts 1080i to 720p.

julie_rose_ · 2010-05-10, 09:47 PM

yeah, but i am new with this. So that is why i am asking the question. Actually, my mom bought the tv for me. So, for my case, is it an hdtv when the receiver says tv type: 1080I and television aspect 16:9? I didn't have to change it. It did by itself when i plug the receiver it used to make 4X3. and 480. No good at that kind of stuff yet!

FunkyTown · 2010-05-10, 10:09 PM

Did you get the manual? Or the model number should be on the tv somewhere. Then we could look it up to see what it is.

julie_rose_ · 2010-05-11, 07:36 PM

its alright, i've got my confirmation yesterday. i have sent an e-mail to samsung and the answered me back this afternoon confirming that it was an hd. thanks for trying to help.

bellvu · 2010-05-15, 09:43 PM

new 9241 user here with v235 firmware. I get freezing and choppy sound. I have unplugged the HDMI and use component in case that's the cause, but it still happens.

It occurs with HD channels when recording one while watching another HD channel, or rewinding back some so that I am playing previous material while recording live. Is the hard drive too slow to handle viewing a recorded or live HD program while recording a different HD program?

redgrandam · 2010-05-15, 10:21 PM

The short answer isit 'should' be able to handle that. It used to be blamed on hdmi but you say you tried with out hdmi. When you did that did you unplug the hdmi cable from the back of the 9241 so that there was nothing (including a dead cable) connected to the port at all? If so there is a good chance you have a defective unit, and if you call tech support they will likely check over a few things like your software etc. and then send you a replacement unit. I'd you haven't called yet I recommend you call during regular business hours to increase your chance of getting a north American call centre.

bellvu · 2010-05-16, 07:53 AM

ok. The HDMI was completely unplugged already. This is reproducable - go to a HD channel, rewind back a few minutes to view recorded material while recording the live feed. It is worse with a channel that has 5.1 sound enabled, makes me think the receiver can't keep up with all the data from reading and writing at the same time. TSN HD during a HD/5.1 game is a big problem

Anyone else with freezing or stutter able to try this test and see if your problems are independent of HDMI, and just having too much data to process at the same time?

holmesjw · 2010-05-19, 12:00 PM

I work in Indonesia and am home in Canada for the summers and Christmas. I've been thinking of getting a 2TB external drive to hook up to the 9241 and basically record all summer. Then bring it to Indonesia with me to watch there.

The HD TVs in Indonesia are both PAL and NTSC, so that shouldn't be problem. Can anyone think of a reason why this wouldn't work?

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

PaulH · 2010-05-19, 03:07 PM

Greetings holmesjw. The 9241 records shows in its own private format, playable only on a 9241. You cannot carry the external drive elsewhere and play it away from the 9241, like on a PC or Mac.

holmesjw · 2010-05-19, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulH

Greetings holmesjw. The 9241 records shows in its own private format, playable only on a 9241. You cannot carry the external drive elsewhere and play it away from the 9241, like on a PC or Mac.

Paul,
Thanks for replying. But I was not specific enough. I do understand that I can't just bring the hard drive.
But could I bring the entire receiver (and external hard drive) and use it in Indonesia. I understand that I am not going to get any signal from Bell, but can I use the receiver to play back all video that has been saved to my hard drive?

dsslearn · 2010-05-21, 12:39 PM

It would work fine. I have watched recorded shows whole not connected to the sat.

Robertazimmerman · 2010-06-03, 02:01 PM

When I had my 9242, I used to be able to access TSN Extra on channel 400 without any problems.

With the 9241, if I access "Top Stories", then click on the first news item, the screen freezes and I have to press the Menu button to close TSN Extra.

Also, when I first press Select to access TSN Extra, the screen widens. This is not a big deal, but it didn't happen with the 9242.

----------------------------
Anybody?

2010-05-05, 04:38 PM	#976
sonnykeyes Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 19	9242 being replaced by 9241 - was this a mistake? I have two rental 9242s, and one of them started acting up, (and resolving itself by reformatting its hard drive) perhaps because it's in a poorly ventilated spot. I called Bell, and they're shipping me a replacement, but I was told that they don't have 9242s any more, so I'm going to be getting a 9241. Reading this forum, I'm starting to wonder if I would be smarter to buy a new TV stand with better ventilation and try to revive the old 9242 - there seem to be substantial complaints here about the 9241s, or am I getting a skewed view of this? What are the differences, really? My other 9242 is the best PVR I've ever had.

2010-05-19, 12:00 PM	#986
holmesjw Rookie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2	Using the PVR in another country I work in Indonesia and am home in Canada for the summers and Christmas. I've been thinking of getting a 2TB external drive to hook up to the 9241 and basically record all summer. Then bring it to Indonesia with me to watch there. The HD TVs in Indonesia are both PAL and NTSC, so that shouldn't be problem. Can anyone think of a reason why this wouldn't work? Thanks for your thoughts on this.

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2010-05-06, 06:24 PM	#977
scrubby Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 228	I've noticed something since hooking up my HDMI cable with V235, in that with V232 whenever I clicked my TV to ON, the Sony A/V receiver came ON also, as expected with HDMI, but it would only stay on the TV input (an analog input with nothing connected to it) and not the HDMI input from Bell, so I had to reset it every time I turned on the TV. Now whenever I turn on the TV, the Sony A/V receiver automatically turns on to the Bell input. I was wondering if anyone has experienced this, and has V235 fixed this, or did my resetting everything just have this happen coincidentally.

2010-05-10, 08:08 PM	#978
julie_rose_ Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 288	hi today i got a brand new tv a samsung 32", i plug back my 9241 receiver and i went to menu, than press 6 for system setup, than press 7 for hdtv setup, than it mark 1080I for tv type than 16««x9 for aspect ratio. so is this an hdtv i got?

2010-05-10, 08:37 PM	#979
FunkyTown Join Date: May 2006 Location: Gatineau, QC Posts: 1,156	Haha that's funny. You bought a brand new TV but don't know if it's HD? It should say on the box or the manual. It likely is, but there are different varieties of HDTV. It would be good to know what you've got. My living room is a 1080p. My bedroom is a 720p. Both TVs accept 1080i, but the bedroom tv converts 1080i to 720p.

2010-05-10, 09:47 PM	#980
julie_rose_ Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 288	yeah, but i am new with this. So that is why i am asking the question. Actually, my mom bought the tv for me. So, for my case, is it an hdtv when the receiver says tv type: 1080I and television aspect 16:9? I didn't have to change it. It did by itself when i plug the receiver it used to make 4X3. and 480. No good at that kind of stuff yet!

2010-05-10, 10:09 PM	#981
FunkyTown Join Date: May 2006 Location: Gatineau, QC Posts: 1,156	Did you get the manual? Or the model number should be on the tv somewhere. Then we could look it up to see what it is.

2010-05-11, 07:36 PM	#982
julie_rose_ Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 288	its alright, i've got my confirmation yesterday. i have sent an e-mail to samsung and the answered me back this afternoon confirming that it was an hd. thanks for trying to help.

2010-05-15, 09:43 PM	#983
bellvu Rookie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2	new 9241 user here with v235 firmware. I get freezing and choppy sound. I have unplugged the HDMI and use component in case that's the cause, but it still happens. It occurs with HD channels when recording one while watching another HD channel, or rewinding back some so that I am playing previous material while recording live. Is the hard drive too slow to handle viewing a recorded or live HD program while recording a different HD program?

2010-05-15, 10:21 PM	#984
redgrandam Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 165	The short answer isit 'should' be able to handle that. It used to be blamed on hdmi but you say you tried with out hdmi. When you did that did you unplug the hdmi cable from the back of the 9241 so that there was nothing (including a dead cable) connected to the port at all? If so there is a good chance you have a defective unit, and if you call tech support they will likely check over a few things like your software etc. and then send you a replacement unit. I'd you haven't called yet I recommend you call during regular business hours to increase your chance of getting a north American call centre.

2010-05-16, 07:53 AM	#985
bellvu Rookie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2	ok. The HDMI was completely unplugged already. This is reproducable - go to a HD channel, rewind back a few minutes to view recorded material while recording the live feed. It is worse with a channel that has 5.1 sound enabled, makes me think the receiver can't keep up with all the data from reading and writing at the same time. TSN HD during a HD/5.1 game is a big problem Anyone else with freezing or stutter able to try this test and see if your problems are independent of HDMI, and just having too much data to process at the same time?

2010-05-19, 03:07 PM	#987
PaulH Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ottawa Posts: 107	Greetings holmesjw. The 9241 records shows in its own private format, playable only on a 9241. You cannot carry the external drive elsewhere and play it away from the 9241, like on a PC or Mac.

2010-05-21, 12:39 PM	#989
dsslearn Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 229	It would work fine. I have watched recorded shows whole not connected to the sat.

2010-06-03, 02:01 PM	#990
Robertazimmerman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 37	When I had my 9242, I used to be able to access TSN Extra on channel 400 without any problems. With the 9241, if I access "Top Stories", then click on the first news item, the screen freezes and I have to press the Menu button to close TSN Extra. Also, when I first press Select to access TSN Extra, the screen widens. This is not a big deal, but it didn't happen with the 9242. ---------------------------- Anybody?