Rogers Atlantic Simsub Discussions - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

TheHulk · 2011-10-04, 09:46 PM

My HD channels are now all sim-subbed, it was one of the few reasons I never left Rogers. I thought they had to provide an HD OTA channel in market to do this, or have they changed the rules?

57 · 2011-10-05, 12:08 AM

After the OTA changeover to digital (most HD), most providers are now simsubbing just about anything. If there is no HD OTA channel in your area and it's being subbed, then contact Rogers and the CRTC, but be aware that global subbing is happening with most providers.

Also, some providers get their signals from other providers, so if they're subbing, then Rogers can do little and will claim so and the CRTC will likely agree with their philosophy. For example, Rogers gets some of their channels in Atlantic via Bell, therefore if Bell is subbing, then the same signals on Rogers will be subbed.

PS. Due to the way Bell does its subbing (mostly nationally), sometimes there is no local OTA channel, however you will get the simsub anyway because it's a national simsub. Bell has CRTC approval for this method.

TheHulk · 2011-10-05, 12:19 PM

None the less, a letter to both will be sent, I know it's most likely a waste of time but I'm not a take it lying down kinda guy.

This sucks, not that I'm a big lover of american adds, it just seems, and maybe its just in my head but the picure quality of the sim-sub isn't as good and missing the timing of the adds swiching over and back is annoying.

woodsie · 2011-10-05, 12:58 PM

Don't forget the common missing previews of next week's episode of your favorite show when they flip the subsim over to a new feed way too soon.

Danster · 2011-10-05, 05:16 PM

^^^^..also when they forget to switch back between shows, you miss the first portion or the last portion of the un-simsubbed channel.

woodsie · 2011-10-05, 06:18 PM

Common theme: We have 2nd class broadcasting (err..re-broadcasting) in Canada..

TheHulk · 2011-10-05, 07:37 PM

It's truly a sad state of affairs we Canadian's put up with in TV, we pay way more than top dollar for the service only to be at the becon call of canadian brodcasters who do very little to make our service better other than to tag along and profit.

kirjtc2 · 2011-10-09, 08:04 PM

I'd like to thank Rogers for simsubbing the Amazing Race tonight. Even though it was delayed on CBS by over half an hour due to football.

I never wanted to see the rest of 60 Minutes anyway.

woodsie · 2011-10-10, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirjtc2

I'd like to thank Rogers for simsubbing the Amazing Race tonight. Even though it was delayed on CBS by over half an hour due to football.

I never wanted to see the rest of 60 Minutes anyway.

Indeed this is the ONLY example of the "positive" of subsimming.

57 · 2011-10-10, 03:37 PM

I thought post 8 was sarcasm. Oh well.

kirjtc2 · 2011-11-21, 08:05 PM

Hey, another botched simsub!

ABC Boston is not airing Dancing with the Stars tonight due to the Patriots game.

The CTV simsub kicked in anyway.

TheHulk · 2011-11-26, 11:05 PM

So its Saturday night 11 pm, watching Big Bang on Fox East in Atlantic Time Zone and it's simsubbed by CTV but their not showing it on their feed at the same time, is that legit?

TheHulk · 2011-11-27, 06:44 PM

So TSN is simsubbing the CBS feed, previous game to this one, and the New England, Philly game is on but I'm halfway through the first quarter aind I'm watching Sportscenter and City is showing the game on their channel, wtf?

canam778 · 2011-12-01, 12:38 PM

If I am paying for HD ch.523, WBZ in Boston; I want WBZ in Boston.
The simsub of Sunday`s Patriot`s game was delayed 35 minuites as some idiot forgot to switch back. Missed most of the 1st Quarter. Not a happy camper!

canam778 · 2012-04-08, 08:13 PM

Time after time Rogers forgets to switchback to the US channel and it's originating signal. Instead I'm forced to watch, Global or CTV on the designated US HD channel.
At this very moment, following the Masters Golf, Rogers has forgot to change ch. 523 back to CBS Boston. Now, instead of watching 60 Minutes, I'm watching(not) The Good Wife on Global.
This action is Mickey Mouse by Rogers. I'm fed up.

2011-10-04, 09:46 PM	#1
TheHulk Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Brunswick Posts: 713	Rogers Atlantic Simsub Discussions My HD channels are now all sim-subbed, it was one of the few reasons I never left Rogers. I thought they had to provide an HD OTA channel in market to do this, or have they changed the rules? __________________ Hitachi 51 GWX 20B \| Sony STRDE845 Receiver \| Rogers NB 6208 PVR + 2500 \| Proson V6 Speakers \| 16 x 22 Basement HT

2011-10-05, 12:08 AM	#2
57 Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Rogers, 8300HD, eHDD, Panasonic TCP65S1, Denon AVR4310Ci; 8300HD, eHDD & Sony KDL40W3000 Posts: 50,298	After the OTA changeover to digital (most HD), most providers are now simsubbing just about anything. If there is no HD OTA channel in your area and it's being subbed, then contact Rogers and the CRTC, but be aware that global subbing is happening with most providers. Also, some providers get their signals from other providers, so if they're subbing, then Rogers can do little and will claim so and the CRTC will likely agree with their philosophy. For example, Rogers gets some of their channels in Atlantic via Bell, therefore if Bell is subbing, then the same signals on Rogers will be subbed. PS. Due to the way Bell does its subbing (mostly nationally), sometimes there is no local OTA channel, however you will get the simsub anyway because it's a national simsub. Bell has CRTC approval for this method. __________________ 57's Home Theatre (Latest equipment & photos) 57's Optimization Services (Home Theatre Optimization)

2011-10-05, 12:19 PM	#3
TheHulk Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Brunswick Posts: 713	I was afraid of that None the less, a letter to both will be sent, I know it's most likely a waste of time but I'm not a take it lying down kinda guy. This sucks, not that I'm a big lover of american adds, it just seems, and maybe its just in my head but the picure quality of the sim-sub isn't as good and missing the timing of the adds swiching over and back is annoying. __________________ Hitachi 51 GWX 20B \| Sony STRDE845 Receiver \| Rogers NB 6208 PVR + 2500 \| Proson V6 Speakers \| 16 x 22 Basement HT

2011-10-05, 05:16 PM	#5
Danster Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lincoln.NB Pop 465,123 Posts: 5,305	^^^^..also when they forget to switch back between shows, you miss the first portion or the last portion of the un-simsubbed channel. __________________ Home Theatre: Yamaha HTR-6190, Klipsch Speakers, SANYO PLV-Z4, TOSHIBA HDDVD, LG BD555C, Cerwin Vega HTS12 Sub, VIP2300, XBox 360, HTPC.

2011-10-05, 07:37 PM	#7
TheHulk Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Brunswick Posts: 713	It's truly a sad state of affairs we Canadian's put up with in TV, we pay way more than top dollar for the service only to be at the becon call of canadian brodcasters who do very little to make our service better other than to tag along and profit. __________________ Hitachi 51 GWX 20B \| Sony STRDE845 Receiver \| Rogers NB 6208 PVR + 2500 \| Proson V6 Speakers \| 16 x 22 Basement HT

2011-10-05, 12:58 PM	#4
woodsie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Brunswick Posts: 198	Don't forget the common missing previews of next week's episode of your favorite show when they flip the subsim over to a new feed way too soon.

2011-10-05, 06:18 PM	#6
woodsie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Brunswick Posts: 198	Common theme: We have 2nd class broadcasting (err..re-broadcasting) in Canada..

2011-10-09, 08:04 PM	#8
kirjtc2 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fredericton, NB Posts: 615	I'd like to thank Rogers for simsubbing the Amazing Race tonight. Even though it was delayed on CBS by over half an hour due to football. I never wanted to see the rest of 60 Minutes anyway.

2011-10-10, 03:37 PM	#10
57 Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Rogers, 8300HD, eHDD, Panasonic TCP65S1, Denon AVR4310Ci; 8300HD, eHDD & Sony KDL40W3000 Posts: 50,298	I thought post 8 was sarcasm. Oh well. __________________ 57's Home Theatre (Latest equipment & photos) 57's Optimization Services (Home Theatre Optimization)

2011-11-21, 08:05 PM	#11
kirjtc2 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fredericton, NB Posts: 615	Hey, another botched simsub! ABC Boston is not airing Dancing with the Stars tonight due to the Patriots game. The CTV simsub kicked in anyway.

2011-11-26, 11:05 PM	#12
TheHulk Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Brunswick Posts: 713	I'm confused So its Saturday night 11 pm, watching Big Bang on Fox East in Atlantic Time Zone and it's simsubbed by CTV but their not showing it on their feed at the same time, is that legit? __________________ Hitachi 51 GWX 20B \| Sony STRDE845 Receiver \| Rogers NB 6208 PVR + 2500 \| Proson V6 Speakers \| 16 x 22 Basement HT

2011-11-27, 06:44 PM	#13
TheHulk Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Brunswick Posts: 713	Sunday, this time football So TSN is simsubbing the CBS feed, previous game to this one, and the New England, Philly game is on but I'm halfway through the first quarter aind I'm watching Sportscenter and City is showing the game on their channel, wtf? __________________ Hitachi 51 GWX 20B \| Sony STRDE845 Receiver \| Rogers NB 6208 PVR + 2500 \| Proson V6 Speakers \| 16 x 22 Basement HT

2011-12-01, 12:38 PM	#14
canam778 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fredericton, NB Posts: 22	I Want The Real Channel! If I am paying for HD ch.523, WBZ in Boston; I want WBZ in Boston. The simsub of Sunday`s Patriot`s game was delayed 35 minuites as some idiot forgot to switch back. Missed most of the 1st Quarter. Not a happy camper!

2012-04-08, 08:13 PM	#15
canam778 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fredericton, NB Posts: 22	Rogers: STOP Simulcasting Time after time Rogers forgets to switchback to the US channel and it's originating signal. Instead I'm forced to watch, Global or CTV on the designated US HD channel. At this very moment, following the Masters Golf, Rogers has forgot to change ch. 523 back to CBS Boston. Now, instead of watching 60 Minutes, I'm watching(not) The Good Wife on Global. This action is Mickey Mouse by Rogers. I'm fed up. Last edited by 57; 2012-04-08 at 11:37 PM. Reason: Moved to existing thread

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