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Installer · 2011-11-07, 11:17 AM

I'm of the opinion the super buddy is second to none, only buy something else if you can't afford the super buddy.

JoeLouie · 2011-11-07, 07:10 PM

I currently have a Birdog USB, I called my office to see if I could get a Birdog Ultra, and they're sending me one. I'm not buying anything lol.

the_dotted · 2012-03-25, 12:53 AM

I know this is a older topic. I just tried using the fs1 meter with a dpp lnb today and it worked. I have yet not tried a dpp quad. just so you know

torchddv · 2012-03-30, 09:35 AM

I apologize for not updating this thread earlier. I did buy one of the FS1 meters for my son-in-law, a Bell installer. He says it works great and saves him a lot of time. However, he has not begun to play with all the features. He only needs to find one particular satellite quickly and reliably and could care less about anything else in the sky. He just uses it with a regular LNB to locate the one satellite. Once that satellite is found and dish angles set, the others fall into place anyway and he can swap the LNB for the quad version.

One unexpected (by us, anyway) benefit: he connects the meter to a hand-held dish to verify the site before installing anything whenever a customer wants the dish located in a dubious location. It's not so much for his own benefit -- he has enough experience to know when a tree line is in the way -- but to demonstrate to the customer that it won't work there. Some people won't take an installer's expert opinion, but can't argue the point when the meter tells them the same story!

Anyway, the upshot is the meter has paid for itself as he is on piecework, so the faster he can install a system the more he can do in a day and therefore the more money he makes. The other installers are jealous. So for his particular application, the FS1 was well worth the modest investment.

Rich7 · 2012-04-07, 02:17 PM

Hi,

I was doing some testing with my new First Strique FS1 meter and it is working really well. Testing was done for satellite 91W and 82W (Bell Tele) with regular LNB.

On post #18, "the_dotted" was mentionning that it was working well with a dpp lnb but on my side, I'm not able to make it worked. Could you provide me more detail on your result, satellite and data.

Thx

sparks · 2012-04-08, 06:34 AM

When using a legacy LNBF with the FS meter, I was able to lock on both the 91 & 82 satellites, as well as 110/118/119. However when using a DP LNBF I had no problem locking on 91 and 110/118/119. But on the 82 HD satellite I could not lock on with the DP LNBF.

Rich7 · 2012-04-08, 08:48 AM

Thx sparks.

As I mentioned, I'm not able to lock on 91W and 82W with DP LNBF. I will try a quad LNBF this week but it should be the same. Do you remember what was your data in the FS1 with DP LNBF. It would be nice if you can provide me a few transponder examples. I tried with different LOs, SRs and 22K.

Here are a few examples of my data for regular LNB: (100% signal)

NO. Long. Name Freq H/V 22K SR LO
2 91W Nimiq1 12239 18 OFF 20000 11250
3 91W Nimiq1 12253 13 OFF 20000 11250
7 91W Nimiq1 12311 13 OFF 20000 11250

Thx

JoeLouie · 2012-04-08, 05:55 PM

When using a DPP LNB you have to use Port 1 (or 3) for 91 and Port 2 (or 4) for 82.

Pinza · 2012-04-08, 07:06 PM

I am guessing that would be a DPP Quad LNBF, JoeLouie.?

JoeLouie · 2012-04-08, 08:29 PM

Yes. Well, port 1 for 91 and port 2 for 82 on a DPP Twin, and 1 or 3 for 91 and 2 or 4 for 82 on a DPP Quad.... although I just realized that he said DP (not DPP) LNBF. So, if that is the case, just ignore everything I've said lol.

Rich7 · 2012-04-08, 09:37 PM

Thx JoeLouie,

Sorry for the confusion and yes it is a twin DPP. I'm sure I tried both ports,91 and 82, but I still don't have any reading or signal. I'll try it again tomorrow but I'm almost sure I don't have the right parameters in the FS1.

Like I said. it is working well with two regular LNBs but nothing with DPP.

I'm looking for the parameters because on post #21, sparks was mentionning that is working well.

Thx

Rich7 · 2012-04-08, 09:43 PM

I was reading again post 21 from sparks and reallize that he was talking about DP LNBF and not DPP.

But I still don't know if it should worked with a DPP.

JoeLouie · 2012-04-09, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich7

Thx JoeLouie,

Sorry for the confusion and yes it is a twin DPP. I'm sure I tried both ports,91 and 82, but I still don't have any reading or signal. I'll try it again tomorrow but I'm almost sure I don't have the right parameters in the FS1.

I've never used a First Strike meter, but I know that with my Birdog it HAS to be on port 2 on a DPP twin to get any reading on 82.

Rich7 · 2012-04-25, 08:31 AM

I'm still trying to make my Frist Strike meter working with DPP LNBF for Sat 91 & 82 and have a question.

Do you know for the DPP if the switching inside the LNBF is controlled by DiSEqC?

Thx

TurboTronix · 2012-06-12, 08:55 AM

Where is the best place to get the First Strike FS1 at a good price? I find it to be somewhat expensive...

2011-11-07, 11:17 AM	#16
Installer Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 292	I'm of the opinion the super buddy is second to none, only buy something else if you can't afford the super buddy. __________________ "The quality of your question will directly effect the quality of your answer"

2012-04-07, 02:17 PM	#20
Rich7 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 13	First Strike meter and digital LNBF Hi, I was doing some testing with my new First Strique FS1 meter and it is working really well. Testing was done for satellite 91W and 82W (Bell Tele) with regular LNB. On post #18, "the_dotted" was mentionning that it was working well with a dpp lnb but on my side, I'm not able to make it worked. Could you provide me more detail on your result, satellite and data. Thx

2012-04-08, 08:48 AM	#22
Rich7 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 13	First Strike meter and digital LNBF Thx sparks. As I mentioned, I'm not able to lock on 91W and 82W with DP LNBF. I will try a quad LNBF this week but it should be the same. Do you remember what was your data in the FS1 with DP LNBF. It would be nice if you can provide me a few transponder examples. I tried with different LOs, SRs and 22K. Here are a few examples of my data for regular LNB: (100% signal) NO. Long. Name Freq H/V 22K SR LO 2 91W Nimiq1 12239 18 OFF 20000 11250 3 91W Nimiq1 12253 13 OFF 20000 11250 7 91W Nimiq1 12311 13 OFF 20000 11250 Thx

2012-04-25, 08:31 AM	#29
Rich7 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 13	First Strike meter and digital LNBF I'm still trying to make my Frist Strike meter working with DPP LNBF for Sat 91 & 82 and have a question. Do you know for the DPP if the switching inside the LNBF is controlled by DiSEqC? Thx

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2011-11-07, 07:10 PM	#17
JoeLouie Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 908	I currently have a Birdog USB, I called my office to see if I could get a Birdog Ultra, and they're sending me one. I'm not buying anything lol.

2012-03-25, 12:53 AM	#18
the_dotted Rookie Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1	I know this is a older topic. I just tried using the fs1 meter with a dpp lnb today and it worked. I have yet not tried a dpp quad. just so you know

2012-03-30, 09:35 AM	#19
torchddv Rookie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11	I apologize for not updating this thread earlier. I did buy one of the FS1 meters for my son-in-law, a Bell installer. He says it works great and saves him a lot of time. However, he has not begun to play with all the features. He only needs to find one particular satellite quickly and reliably and could care less about anything else in the sky. He just uses it with a regular LNB to locate the one satellite. Once that satellite is found and dish angles set, the others fall into place anyway and he can swap the LNB for the quad version. One unexpected (by us, anyway) benefit: he connects the meter to a hand-held dish to verify the site before installing anything whenever a customer wants the dish located in a dubious location. It's not so much for his own benefit -- he has enough experience to know when a tree line is in the way -- but to demonstrate to the customer that it won't work there. Some people won't take an installer's expert opinion, but can't argue the point when the meter tells them the same story! Anyway, the upshot is the meter has paid for itself as he is on piecework, so the faster he can install a system the more he can do in a day and therefore the more money he makes. The other installers are jealous. So for his particular application, the FS1 was well worth the modest investment.

2012-04-08, 06:34 AM	#21
sparks Rookie Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New Brunswick Posts: 10	First Strike Meter When using a legacy LNBF with the FS meter, I was able to lock on both the 91 & 82 satellites, as well as 110/118/119. However when using a DP LNBF I had no problem locking on 91 and 110/118/119. But on the 82 HD satellite I could not lock on with the DP LNBF.

2012-04-08, 05:55 PM	#23
JoeLouie Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 908	When using a DPP LNB you have to use Port 1 (or 3) for 91 and Port 2 (or 4) for 82.

2012-04-08, 07:06 PM	#24
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,685	I am guessing that would be a DPP Quad LNBF, JoeLouie.?

2012-04-08, 08:29 PM	#25
JoeLouie Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 908	Yes. Well, port 1 for 91 and port 2 for 82 on a DPP Twin, and 1 or 3 for 91 and 2 or 4 for 82 on a DPP Quad.... although I just realized that he said DP (not DPP) LNBF. So, if that is the case, just ignore everything I've said lol.

2012-04-08, 09:37 PM	#26
Rich7 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 13	Thx JoeLouie, Sorry for the confusion and yes it is a twin DPP. I'm sure I tried both ports,91 and 82, but I still don't have any reading or signal. I'll try it again tomorrow but I'm almost sure I don't have the right parameters in the FS1. Like I said. it is working well with two regular LNBs but nothing with DPP. I'm looking for the parameters because on post #21, sparks was mentionning that is working well. Thx

2012-04-08, 09:43 PM	#27
Rich7 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 13	I was reading again post 21 from sparks and reallize that he was talking about DP LNBF and not DPP. But I still don't know if it should worked with a DPP.

2012-06-12, 08:55 AM	#30
TurboTronix Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 48	Where is the best place to get the First Strike FS1 at a good price? I find it to be somewhat expensive...