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j0dest3r · 2012-03-17, 06:31 PM

I don't recall what they were before, but now they are Citytv and OMNI for me.

downbeat · 2012-03-19, 12:38 AM

My experience mirrors what frontpl8 describes: No more call letters.

Mike FM · 2012-03-20, 11:10 AM

So, for a couple of days last week, there was no PSIP information on City Edmonton so I called and asked what was up. Tech said they were setting clocks in Calgary and may have done something. Yesterday, still no City on 3 different TV's and looked at TSreader again. The PSIP is back but they changed the virtual to 51.1 (as it should be) instead of 17.1. To watch the channel, I had to rescan to pick up the new channel on all 3 TV's. All good again!

van der Decken · 2012-03-21, 08:25 PM

Citytv (CKAL-DT) in Calgary is no longer showing program data for me this evening. It's back to the generic "Citytv CALGARY , Event ####' data. I suppose a few bumps in the road are to be expected. OMNI still looks good though.

Billsmith · 2012-03-31, 10:35 AM

CBRT-DT is scheduled to transfer it's service to a new antenna and the new transmitter will be 10Kw power output. The new antenna is expected to be attached to the surface of the old Channel 9 high band unit at the very top of the mast. The ERP is expected to be over 200 Kw. This should offer extended range and better reception opportunities around and well outside Calgary.

j0dest3r · 2012-03-31, 04:47 PM

Good news for cow town! What about CBC French still the same status, stuck on analog? How much longer can they stay there?

Billsmith · 2012-03-31, 05:50 PM

j0dest3r - AFAIK Southern Alberta's CBC/SRC repeater sites are all having or have had satelite dishes and receivers added in order to continue to feed the old analog repeaters when the so called "analog backbone" is switched off.
In theory at least, this will mean that the analog services can continue until other parts wear out and can no longer be replaced due to non-availabilty or a new mandate appears which will require them to be turned off or replaced by digital services. The same, I imagine will happen or has happened to CBRFT French service in Calgary. The analog service could therefore linger on for a few years pending a further authoratative decision. It's a pity that a city the size of Calgary doesn't appear to warrant an OTA DTV French service. A little oddball in the scheme of things? (Calgary has 6 DTV channels and one analog)!

j0dest3r · 2012-03-31, 07:02 PM

The part that really ticks me off is CBC is allowed to stay on the air Analogue but not CTV2 but we won't go there.

j0dest3r · 2012-04-01, 10:35 AM

Wow! So I've had my antenna up for almost a year now, never had any signal issues until today. There is a bit of a spring snow storm going on, and Global is unwatchable!

CFRN is fine. It looks like I'm going to have to tweak my setup again!

audacity · 2012-04-01, 11:50 AM

j0dest3r,

I saw your message and checked. I'm not getting 13.1 either right now.

Ahh well, this sort of thing is infrequent enough that I'm probably not going to do anything about it. What would have to happen in order for me to upgrade my antenna setup would be if start losing prime-time recordings due to antenna signal issues.

Billsmith · 2012-04-01, 03:06 PM

j0dest3r - I did also want CTV2 OTA as you did but when I enquired about it with CTV, I was told that the viewing audience size didn't justify the investment.

j0dest3r · 2012-04-01, 10:00 PM

Thanks for confirming. 11am I checked again and it was back to 70+. I guess that is just the way it is sometimes.

As far as CTV2 goes, Rogers didn't have too much trouble putting up Omni in the first place and switching it to digital no less despite the 'smaller audience.' CTV/Bell are just greedy u know whats and just use the audience size as an excuse. That's fine, my eyes will be elsewhere watching their competitions advertising more!

tvlurker · 2012-04-03, 08:44 PM

Because Rogers needed to be OTA to get cable coverage. CTV2 does not. For Rogers, no OTA means no audience, while for CTV2 no OTA means they only lose the OTA-only audiene, but keep the cable audience.

j0dest3r · 2012-04-03, 09:45 PM

I guess I don't understand why the rules seem to be different for CTV2 are different than that for OMNI. Doesn't seem fair really.

tvlurker · 2012-04-04, 06:17 AM

CTV2 started off as a direct-to-cable provincial educational station, and has inherited the privileges accruing to such a station.

2012-03-20, 11:10 AM	#573
Mike FM Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Alberta Posts: 174	City TV Edmonton So, for a couple of days last week, there was no PSIP information on City Edmonton so I called and asked what was up. Tech said they were setting clocks in Calgary and may have done something. Yesterday, still no City on 3 different TV's and looked at TSreader again. The PSIP is back but they changed the virtual to 51.1 (as it should be) instead of 17.1. To watch the channel, I had to rescan to pick up the new channel on all 3 TV's. All good again!

2012-03-21, 08:25 PM	#574
van der Decken Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Calgary Posts: 45	Citytv Calgary program data down Citytv (CKAL-DT) in Calgary is no longer showing program data for me this evening. It's back to the generic "Citytv CALGARY , Event ####' data. I suppose a few bumps in the road are to be expected. OMNI still looks good though.

2012-03-31, 10:35 AM	#575
Billsmith Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Banff Trail district, Calgary. Posts: 437	CBRT-DT English service! This summer! 10 times the ERP! CBRT-DT is scheduled to transfer it's service to a new antenna and the new transmitter will be 10Kw power output. The new antenna is expected to be attached to the surface of the old Channel 9 high band unit at the very top of the mast. The ERP is expected to be over 200 Kw. This should offer extended range and better reception opportunities around and well outside Calgary.

2012-03-31, 05:50 PM	#577
Billsmith Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Banff Trail district, Calgary. Posts: 437	CBRFT French Service. j0dest3r - AFAIK Southern Alberta's CBC/SRC repeater sites are all having or have had satelite dishes and receivers added in order to continue to feed the old analog repeaters when the so called "analog backbone" is switched off. In theory at least, this will mean that the analog services can continue until other parts wear out and can no longer be replaced due to non-availabilty or a new mandate appears which will require them to be turned off or replaced by digital services. The same, I imagine will happen or has happened to CBRFT French service in Calgary. The analog service could therefore linger on for a few years pending a further authoratative decision. It's a pity that a city the size of Calgary doesn't appear to warrant an OTA DTV French service. A little oddball in the scheme of things? (Calgary has 6 DTV channels and one analog)!

2012-04-01, 10:35 AM	#579
j0dest3r Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,617	Global Edmoton Wow! So I've had my antenna up for almost a year now, never had any signal issues until today. There is a bit of a spring snow storm going on, and Global is unwatchable! CFRN is fine. It looks like I'm going to have to tweak my setup again!

2012-03-17, 06:31 PM	#571
j0dest3r Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,617	I don't recall what they were before, but now they are Citytv and OMNI for me.

2012-03-19, 12:38 AM	#572
downbeat Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Calgary Posts: 3,564	My experience mirrors what frontpl8 describes: No more call letters.

2012-03-31, 04:47 PM	#576
j0dest3r Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,617	Good news for cow town! What about CBC French still the same status, stuck on analog? How much longer can they stay there?

2012-03-31, 07:02 PM	#578
j0dest3r Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,617	The part that really ticks me off is CBC is allowed to stay on the air Analogue but not CTV2 but we won't go there.

2012-04-01, 11:50 AM	#580
audacity Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 1,800	j0dest3r, I saw your message and checked. I'm not getting 13.1 either right now. Ahh well, this sort of thing is infrequent enough that I'm probably not going to do anything about it. What would have to happen in order for me to upgrade my antenna setup would be if start losing prime-time recordings due to antenna signal issues.

2012-04-01, 03:06 PM	#581
Billsmith Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Banff Trail district, Calgary. Posts: 437	j0dest3r - I did also want CTV2 OTA as you did but when I enquired about it with CTV, I was told that the viewing audience size didn't justify the investment.

2012-04-01, 10:00 PM	#582
j0dest3r Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,617	Thanks for confirming. 11am I checked again and it was back to 70+. I guess that is just the way it is sometimes. As far as CTV2 goes, Rogers didn't have too much trouble putting up Omni in the first place and switching it to digital no less despite the 'smaller audience.' CTV/Bell are just greedy u know whats and just use the audience size as an excuse. That's fine, my eyes will be elsewhere watching their competitions advertising more!

2012-04-03, 08:44 PM	#583
tvlurker Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Craig Henry (Greenbank/Hunt Club), Nepean, ON Posts: 2,729	Because Rogers needed to be OTA to get cable coverage. CTV2 does not. For Rogers, no OTA means no audience, while for CTV2 no OTA means they only lose the OTA-only audiene, but keep the cable audience.

2012-04-03, 09:45 PM	#584
j0dest3r Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,617	I guess I don't understand why the rules seem to be different for CTV2 are different than that for OMNI. Doesn't seem fair really.

2012-04-04, 06:17 AM	#585
tvlurker Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Craig Henry (Greenbank/Hunt Club), Nepean, ON Posts: 2,729	CTV2 started off as a direct-to-cable provincial educational station, and has inherited the privileges accruing to such a station.

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